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8/03/2004 10:52:53
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If the typical Islamic person could perceive what the typical Westerner thinks about him - his traditions, culture and religion - he would be amused, shocked or perhaps even frightened. To the Western mind, the Islamic world is inscrutably bemusing - an exotic enigma, part fairy tale, part attitudes formed in colonial times in which, frequently, perfectly normal and logical acts are construed with misunderstandings and misgivings.
To the Westerner, the Islamic world is a lurid hodge-podge of exotic imagery - a myth adapted from 1001 Nights - comprised of huge harems, wild sex orgies, opulent palaces, flying carpets, incredible wealth, fierce warriors, hordes of thieves, shrewd and dishonest traders, cruelty and religious fanaticism.
Take away the flying carpets, and the West could be described in similar terms - but neither description would be accurate.
Not only do we need to consider this distorted Western viewpoint - which by itself, and minus its negative aspects, would be mere ignorance and relatively harmless - but we all must consider that these distorted viewpoints are deliberately being used and often magnified to goad the West into a future criminal war against the Islamic world. These unjust views, already previously held and reinforced since the Gulf War, are now the standard thinking by many Westerners - and are being used to JUSTIFY such wars!
The West has at its disposal tremendous media facilities for the education of the public, but until now, these facilities of information, education and entertainment have been largely used purposely to misinform, to miseducate, and to instill hatred against the Islamic peoples. Just as certainly, this situation has not come about by accident.
The West's mainstream media are controlled by a small group of unscrupulous men who know exactly what they are doing, and who will stop at nothing in order to attain their often criminal and murderous ends. This same group of media manipulators and its predecessors broadcast and published anti-German propaganda in both world wars and included the Japanese as victims and targets of their hate campaigns in the Second World War. These men are brainwashing experts. On their account, millions of Westerners, who had never met a German or Japanese, were inflamed with murderous hatred - sufficiently so that they killed millions of persons who might otherwise have been their customers and friends.
If it can be done against Germans and Japanese, it can be done against the Islamic peoples - and it is being done since 1947 against the Palestinians and Israel's neighbors.
We Germans have learned through our own sad experience since World War I and II that a nation's salvation lies in its reputation, and a nation's reputation depends upon truthful, unbiased information - not deliberate misinformation and misrepresentation! The same principle is true for the Islamic nations.
Let us now look upon the face of the enemy - your enemy and ours - who is responsible for endangering world peace, international understanding and, in consequence, your lives and ours.
The leadership of the West is heavily influenced and often dominated by a small minority of this alien political persuasion. Political and religious Zionism plays a disproportionately large role in the West because of the Zionists' domination of the mass media of information, education and entertainment, the banking system, the secret societies and a globalist One World conspiracy by an out-of-touch financial and political, societal oligarchy of accumulated wealth and power.
Worse yet, these Zionist elements are aided and abetted by millions of brainwashed Christians and non-Christians who suffer from the previously mentioned media-created distortions about the Islamic world and its peoples, whom they believe mistakenly to be "bad", based on the stereotypical propaganda image.
Just as mistakenly, the brainwashed Christians of the West have been led to believe that some of these frequently quite vicious, greedy and often militant people who call themselves "Jews" are "good" - simply because the Christian Bible mentions "Jews" as "God's Chosen People". Ever since the beginning of World War II, the Zionists and their dupes and hirelings have used this self-serving myth as a tool for the deception of the Western Christian masses.
I as a German should know, for in Germany a person who questions any aspect of the Zionist version of history as expressed in the so-called "Holocaust" faces prison for up to five years! In Germany alone, over 5,800 people have been prosecuted and fined in the last few years. Hundreds have been jailed for expressing doubt about what even Jewish Professor Norman correctly refers to as "…this Zionist version of the history of World War II"!
We see the results of this massive deceit - that is, that Zionist interests are identical to Western interests - in the many publications and pronouncements of organizations such as the "Councils of Christians and Jews", so-called "Brotherhood Weeks", "Interfaith Services", conventions, ecumenical workshops, and the like. Western Christians have become circumcised mentally by this incessant yet false propaganda!
Many Western people, and unfortunately even leaders of governments, have come to falsely identify "Jewish" - that is, frequently Zionist - interests with their own country's interests, which is exactly like a hypnotized person mistaking a deadly poison for nourishing food. We have even heard the famous singer and media personality, Pat Boone, a Christian, say that there are really only three kinds of Judaism: Orthodox, Reformed, and Christian - saying that Christianity is just another form of Judaism…..
For the rest of the article, please the link of ‘Radio Islam’
http://abbc.net/zundels/index.htm
 
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albozchill
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8/04/2004 21:33:25
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salaam alaykom
I am a Muslim from America and if you are referring to America as the west then hmmmmm your wronggggg well the haraam actions that occur in America are true but the other part is a little maybe just a tad wrong since the person who wrote it is German how would he know what America is all about ? well every year on Ramadan the President invites the local imam and breaks fast with the Imam ???? hmmmm didnt think of that i guess there are over a thousand Mosques in America /??? yes lol and there are even schools highschools that are based on islamic curriculm yea i bet your enjoying this lol if a Muslim has a holiday thats religious affiliated then he is excused for that do no questions asked hmmmmm lol yes its true >>Im AMERICAN<< just to point out those few things and since i know you will accuse me of being i zionist since i am nottttt i am 100 percent Muslimmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Alll praise be to ALLAH butttttt even if you dont believe me instead of calling me a zionist why dont you just refute these facts ? i think that is so much better then name calling which you always do in America girls and women are aloud to go to school with the hijabs on women are aloud to work in their work place with hijabs on nowwwwwwww in turkeyyyyyy i think which is 94 percent Muslim the girls arent allowed to wear the hijabs while in school and if the women want to work they better take the hijabs off or else they arent going to get a job working for the gov. nowwwww brother i wanna also make this clear to you they have nude beaches in Morroco and they have them In America whats the difference in Morroco the majority of people of Muslim now you might ask why am i saying this slander about Muslims ? because the Prophet pbuh said always tell the truth and never lie even if it is about yourself tell the truth humankind is all in one brotherhood with Muslims its a little more personal because we are even closer we are all in one deen but you have to realize brother people will be people if you think about it to have idols is a bad thing what about egypt ??????? they have all those sphinx and they havent knocked any of them down ??? what are they waiting for brother ??? dear brother let he who is without sin cast the first stone everyone is at fault if anything the Ummah is lost because we have no leader the day the prophet pbuh died was the day that we were lost agree or not thas my opinon ws take care
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ME
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8/08/2004 21:32:20
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albozchill:
either way its certain that you are an ignorant Jahil/hiiwan
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Locutus
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8/09/2004 23:20:31
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This video could change history. It proves that 911 was not committed by 19 Muslims with boxcutters. I can send free copies. It is in english. We (LetsRoll911.org) are looking for someone to translate this documentary from english to arabic. You may review the video at this site:
http://www.policestate21.com/
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Anonymous
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8/15/2004 12:19:36
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Dear Albozoooooo!
Let me ‘blow some Canadian air’ through your Jewish brain cells.
‘! am a Muslim from America…..’
Robert Tennet, the former head of CIA, fooled the entire USA by pretending to be Christian – though he was a Jew, and his name at birth was – David Cohen!
‘since the person who wrote it is German…’
Gee! The ‘person’ is a Canadian citizen and carries only Canadian passport. And for your Jewish-info – German are not allowed to have ‘dual nationality’ as the American Jews are privileged to have both USA and Israeli nationality.
‘…every year on Ramadan the President invites the local imam and breaks fast with the Imam ????’
So does he invites Rabbis on Yom Kapur! And if you don’t know, before the start of every Crusade against the Arabs, the Pope used to invite the Jewish leaders for a feast – and after they finish their meal – their heads were chopped as a ‘sacrifice’!
Hey, you want me to carry-on this ‘lovely’ history lesson?
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goharian
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9/01/2004 16:48:40
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HI ,SALAMZ ,NAMASTE ,SASRIKAL ALLZZ
HH GOHAR SHAHI iz awaited IMAM MEHDI,KALKI AVTAR,MESSIHA as HIZ image iz cumin on MOON ,SUN , SHIVLING,NEBULA START N BLACK STONE in mecca...HE came on this earth 2 establish peace n love everywhere...HE has not cum only 4 one religion but has cum 4 da entire humanity whether it be muslims ,hindus,christians,sikh ,jews,etc etc
sum of HIS precious quotes r as follows
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"Believe this: God wishes to see you also, but you are unaware, unmindful or ill fated. What people look at (face), you wash it every day with soap, apply cream (to it), and trim beard, but have you ever washed what God will look at? (The Heart) "
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"Just as your eyes spot a shining star, whether it be Mars or Mercury or a nameless star, similarly God looks at shining Hearts whether they are in a religion or not. "
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now u dont need to go newhere 2 ne dr if u r ill or sick...juz ask da image of GOHAR SHAHI on moon n u will b fine in overnight..
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ALBOZO
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9/02/2004 01:36:14
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albozchill:
either way its certain that you are an ignorant Jahil/hiiwan
LOL...........
albozchill: you are real stupid moron
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goharian
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9/02/2004 15:17:25
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hi
sorry 2 da one who started dis topic..i m sorry i juz jump in between this topic..i wud start ma topic sumwhere else..
thanx n no hard feelings
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ALBOZCHILL
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9/03/2004 14:22:40
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I AM A STUPID MORON ? WHAT FACT DO YOU BASE THAT ON ? I GIVE YOU PROOF AND YOU DO NOT REFUTE IT I TRY TO BE HUMBLE AND ASK QUESTIONS TO UNDERSTAND YOU AND YOU CALL ME A JEW ? YOU ARE COMMITTING THE ULTIMATE SIN BY CALLING A MUSLIM A NON MUSLIM MAY THE MERCY OF ALLAH BE UPON YOU
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10/01/2004 11:50:40
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